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Feral Finster's avatar

"Zelensky has found it necessary (thanks to the US arms delivery shut down) to look like he is advocating a peace framework, but no doubt he will insist on Russia pulling most of its forces out of Ukraine."

Zelenskii has zero interest in ending the war. The war has brought and continues to bring him nothing but benefits. Besides the flood of sweet western cash for him and his cronies to skim, before 2022, he was the authoritarian ruler of a corrupt, nazi-infested hole.

Now we are duly assured that the little twerp is Winston Churchill, Pericles, Sun Tzu, Ashoka, George Washington and Solomon The Wise, all rolled into one, and a certified fashion icon, to boot.

So, naturally, he'll promise anything, as long as it keeps the war going. His kids won't be press ganged into the front lines, he won't be tapping out his personal account for "loans" that will never be repaid.

Pete Shramko's avatar

I’m actually not so sure how “hostile” the remaining population would be to an outright collapse of the Ukrainian state.

During Ukraine’s brief existence as a nation-state they did nothing but lie, cheat and steal everything of wealth leaving the Ukrainian people impoverished. Corruption is axiomatic with a destitute population.

Will the remaining people who live in Ukraine have warm and fuzzy memories of what life was like as an “independent” state? Clearly the oligarchs will cry wells of tears… as will the psychotic neo-Nazi brigades (that still exist).

But I think Europe will be shocked at just how pliable the remaining Ukrainian population will be under Russian rule.

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