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Marshall Eubanks's avatar

It wasn't a retreat, it was a rout (there is plenty of video of this) with also a large prisoner haul (Russian channels talk about over 500 POW so far, and there are certainly a lot of videos of that too).

If the order to retreat could have been issued a few days earlier order could have probably been maintained and men's lives saved. One thing that has consistently struck me about this war of attrition is how careful the larger power is with their soldiers lives, and how careless the smaller power is with theirs. It's exactly the reverse of what you'd expect.

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It may not only be the army that's seething. There has been significant (though spotty) resistance to "military recruitment by abduction", with settlements rallying to protect their men from the meat-grinder. The Writing is on the Wall and everyone is reading the same message. Meanwhile the Conscription Law remains stalled for months in the Rada.

Probably no one can interpret the the AFU dire battlefield status than Zaluzhny himself. The Russian AF now flies support missions with impunity. At this point, close air-ground assault coordination makes Russian forces almost unstoppable. And note: Russia has not yet officially launched an Offensive, still remaining in a state of (Aggressive) Defense. However, forces are queuing in mass forces in several spots, with forces > than 100> in the Norrtheast section of the front.

If anyone could lead "negotiations" (such as they might be at this point) it would be Gen Zaluzhny as head of state in Kiev. Stay tuned.

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