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i can see russia taking out the Global Hawk Forte II (RQ-48) and P-8A Poseidon... i don't think usa has a leg to stand on here.. they can complain, but they are complicit in the terrorist actions of the rogue state of ukraIne.. in fact, the usa and friends are now responsible for it.. it's coming, because nato and friends really aren't all that coy or cunning...

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The P-8A is a crewed aircraft based on the Boeing 737. If it was attacked it would kill a number of Americans. I don't see the Russians doing anything like that.

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I think the US will be left holding the bag as almost all of the NATO members will take a powder if it comes to actually having to throw down with the Russians because 1) they'd be on the front lines and 2) I don't think they hate Russia as much as Nuland and the Neo-Cons.

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Yes, they're certainly keeping the intel aviation assets busy in the Black Sea area the last couple of weeks. As I'm typing, a P-8A is heading back to Sigonella where it seems to have been recently stationed. Two Global Hawks are rotated out of that airfield, too. Since Erdogan seems to be "back in the fold" now, NATO is once again utilizing Turkiye airspace; there were 2 E-3A Sentry planes there yesterday along the Black Sea coast, with the assortment of P-8A, GH, etc., over Constanta & the Black Sea. (and who knows what is in the air which isn't using its transponder) So the Black Sea coastline is almost encircled. The lack of activity over Turkiye could have been due to the earthquake, but the timing is interesting.

Here is the drone I've seen almost constantly over the coastline in Estonia & they pop up along the North Sea coastline sometimes too. Usually they don't have any good info when you click them, but one did a couple of days ago. For anyone who is interested:

https://www.textronsystems.com/products/aerosonde

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Sep 5, 2023·edited Sep 5, 2023Author

I wonder if the use of Turkish airspace was a topic in the Putin-Erdogan meeting? The US provides all the operational intelligence for targets to Ukraine, relayed to smartphones (including targets inside Russian territory). The Ukrainians report they actually are handed too many targets. US involvement in the war is so deep that in fact the US is a combatant. A particularly dangerous issue is US targeting of Russian nuclear bombers on bases inside Russia. This could touch off a bigger war and is reckless.

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I would loved to have been a fly on the wall for that meeting; if an old, retired lady watching air traffic on her computer noticed the air traffic stop for months then start again, certainly the Russians didn't miss it! The Turks usually fly 3-4 of their own drones constantly along the coast between Izmir and Istanbul...I've often wondered if they share any intelligence from them and with who (although I don't know what capabilities those drones possess).

It seems the establishment in Washington has neither brakes or a reverse gear. They simply refuse to put down the shovel and the hole gets deeper every day. Acting as if they aren't deeply involved is indeed reckless and terrifying. I wonder how much equipment, intel & personnel we have involved that we don't even know about.

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Pretty unusual for Russia to sit back and not react to almost open US involvement. Makes me think they're already up to something. Possibly sneaking some "friends" through the southern border with plans to arm them later for something nefarious. Who knows at this point...

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Escalation after escalation. It's as if the neocons want Russia to nuke Ukraine. What type of calculus is being used here? If they nuke Ukraine and it goes no further than that (God willing), Russia then loses support from the BRICS nations, Africa, South America? That's surely the only "rosy" scenario.

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Talk of Russia nuking jukraine or any other location is just hot air from windbags.

Russia does not have first use in it's doctrine. Only the Zio-con scum controlling the USA has that.

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true..

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